10 replies to this topic

[saed sweity]

hello everybody,
I just finished CCNA course with a certified trainer , but before doing the CCNA exam he offered to move directly to CCIE skipping the CCNP course , is that possible?
i will be here to ask and help when i can ..
saed sweity
Palestine

[vijay_poonia]

Yes, thats possible.

[talent pk]

hello everybody,
I just finished CCNA course with a certified trainer , but before doing the CCNA exam he offered to move directly to CCIE skipping the CCNP course , is that possible?
i will be here to ask and help when i can ..
saed sweity
Palestine

That's because your Instructor wants to Suck your money from your pocket.he knows anyone coaching CCIE can make neat money pretty easily. That is possible but you gota have atleast 5 year experience of strong practical life.

Otherwise i suggest doing CCNP, then CCIE

Edited by talent pk, 19 May 2011 - 03:14 PM.

[tazacar]

Not bad to dream for CCIE, but you need some years of experience to justify it.. Have your CCNP first and get some real world experience...

[dividered]

ofcourse this is possible, if you have experience before with network devices then this will very good for you. but if you dont have any prevoiuse experience then i guess you have to take it step by step as CCNP will give you good technical information and will secure you a good job and after some work and study you can do the CCIE

[MarkinManchester]

You could and its not impossible, where you will find difficulty is that no one will take you seriously! The idea of the CCIE was to show that you had accumalated knowledge and knew how and where to apply it.

Anyone can be coached to pass the lab and thats all you will get and at the end of it all you get a certification but you experience is paper thin!

Pointless exercise in my opinion.

Mark

[pappyaar]

hello everybody,
I just finished CCNA course with a certified trainer , but before doing the CCNA exam he offered to move directly to CCIE skipping the CCNP course , is that possible?
i will be here to ask and help when i can ..
saed sweity
Palestine

Dear Saed, Your query can be taken as positive as well as negative. If you plan to do CCIE "certification" without experience, then according to Mark, yes its a pointless practice. If you want to just prepare the CCIE cert then definetly go for it.

I never ever seriously prepared for CCNP. To me, Cisco's CCNP outline was crap, and is crap ;-)
CCIE cert no doubt teaches you how to learn the technology and how to make the most out of it. After my ccna classes, i jumped directly to Jeff doyle TCP/IP routing and CCIE switching. They helped me to actually see how a network is built, something CCNP course could'nt accomplish.

If your coach properly teaches you for CCIE, (which is very very unlikely, but again, you know your instructor better then us :-)) you will get a firm grasp of nearly all the important techs, your CCNP will automatically be covered :-). So yes, it will be CCNP + CCIE training in just CCIE training course ;-)

Decision is yours

[Darby Weaver]

Wow!

How do we know the instructor is that poor...

Maybe and maybe not?

Anyone had the guy for a class yet?

[kingbode]

you can go for CCIE exam even without being ccna or ccnp certified. check cisco site...

[Internetwork Solutions]

hello everybody,
I just finished CCNA course with a certified trainer , but before doing the CCNA exam he offered to move directly to CCIE skipping the CCNP course , is that possible?
i will be here to ask and help when i can ..
saed sweity
Palestine

It does not make sense at all to skip the CCNP course and go directly for CCIE training. I wonder which trainer would suggest something like that?

However, if CCIE is your ultimate goal and you don't plan to take up a job before you have your CCIE cleared, it is technically possible for you to skip both the CCNA and CCNP exams and go directly for the CCIE exam (first CCIE Qual which then makes you eligible to take the CCIE lab exam).

[Darby Weaver]

Actually, while I don't really advise it today as much - The CCNP or other certs are ***NOT*** needed for the CCIE certification.

Nope.

I wrote up a study plan for just such a thing on how a regular CCNA (real CCNA not one who ate a few fruit loops and passed the test) can go from literally zero to hero in about 1 year or so.

I think it is possible, but I don't think it is easy - especially since no training vendor is probably suited today to make a 100% money back guarantee.

Maybe... one day soon such an offer might be a reality.

But that would mean that instructors and the company they work for would actually to be willing to support the student from the start till the end and not just "say" that's what they do.