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#1 bilgisayar

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 11:39 PM

I would like to point out couple of things about my M.C.S.E adventure.
First of all , i have learned lots of things from this forum.

Actually before i started my track, I went to microsoft website and got some informations about the tracks that i can follw and the exams, then made my decision about my mcse track. So i knew what i was against and my targets.

I did search about all the exams that i needed in either here or shares section, i wrote 70-270, 70-290, 70-291, 70-284, 70-293, 70-294, 70-298 one by one. I created top level folder called MCSE on my desktop and created child folders for each of those exams and put all the related stuff in them. My main idea was to get at least one ebook and one cbt for each exam. And i downloaded all sort of stuff. And i also bought microsoft core exam books because i like reading.

I knew that preparation is very important and the key for success. After a week, I was ready to start.
Those are my exams that I had.
70-270........... 58 questions   -------> MCP
70-290........... 44 questions + 3 simulations
70-291........... 40 questions + 3 simulations
70-284........... 32 questions   -------> MCSA + messaging
70-293........... 43 questions + 3 simulations
70-294........... 42 questions + 3 simulations
70-298 ........... 5 Case Studies   --------> MCSE


Microsoft books are okey but sometimes you need more in detail. I have found sybex much better and more helpful. I think having both of them will give you extensive info and be better idea for studying.

About the CBTs ....
Overall, cbtnuggets videos are great. They do go into details and show you how to do most of the things. I really like them. But be sure you like american accent and jokes.
Testout is also good. Most of the time, they have simulations that they want you to repeat what you learned right after the topic ends and give you a brief notes about the topics. They are good.
[productbanned] is a bit boring. I didn't like it at all except 284. Actually most of the time, i think, it depends on the tutor, how he approaches the topics and the examples.
VTC, it is hard to find. I think, I had only one and they are better than [productbanned].

If you have time to watch, try to get first two and you will see what i meant. They will complete each other.
You will get more examples and more info. Try not to fall asleep though.

Definetely download VMWARE. PRACTICE is the main key to learn. Once you apply them in your lab, you will gain power to judge all questions and eliminate choices given to you. This is very important. Only thing is you need more RAM for your computer.
I have tried microsoft virtual server, but i didn't like it. It wasn't stable but may be the latest versions are.

Testking. actualtests, examsheets, certkiller are all the same. Try to get the latest but .....
As i said before, when you practice in your lab, you will find lots of wrong answers in them. So DO NOT TRUST them. Put your own answers instead . Ask youself why they are wrong, Or even if you get the right answer, try to do it in your lab, vmware and see why they are right..
I must admit, i have learned lots of stuff from testking or others explanations. Sometimes they give you different appoach.

Finally, I would like to thank all the guys in this forum who help other people with their experiences. And special thank again to GLOW for his errata's. I know he is preparing erratas for 297 and 298.

THANKS EVERYBODY ....

Edited by BOFH, 22 January 2007 - 07:18 AM.

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Posted 21 January 2007 - 12:18 AM

Thanx for the info!

CBT Nuggets videos are great for test specific information.

I copy them from the CD to the hard drive. The first time I run each at normal speed. After that I jump over the jokes and run the rest at double speed in WMP just to absorb the important stuff.

Of course this makes the American accent even more pronounced ;)
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:04 AM

Surely sharing of experiences& tips like this is a roadmap to us.
keep it up and wish best for ur future endevors
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 08:02 PM

Congrats dude, I see you're popping your head up in the ccna forum too :-)
Good Luck.
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#5 bilgisayar

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 08:07 PM

Hi mate
I have done networking+ course and I really liked it. I think Networking is challenging and more to do with. CCNA is just beginning.

Congrats dude, I see you're popping your head up in the ccna forum too :-)
Good Luck.


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Posted 24 January 2007 - 01:16 PM

[quote name='cqk6' date='Jan 22 2007, 02:07 PM' post='426125']

Hi bro...
It's very useful for newbie who want to get MSCE certificate....
Thanks 4 sharing your experience...
Good Luck.
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 09:41 PM

i studied my first exams through cbt nuggets, but after passing once after watching testout's cbts i never looked away and back to the cbt nuggets.

cbt nuggets is great and the most professional i might add, but they give you so much information, usually its too much information.
testout's cbts are short and to the point, watch and learn exactly what you need for the test.

so watching cbt nuggets just to get that little extra information that could also help you in real life in the future is a bit dull in my opinion, as in real life- experience is what matters.


if you are looking to start studying mcse (or anything else), i recommend studying only from testout!
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 11:56 PM

Thx for your kind informations ... keep it always
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:10 AM

Thanks for the Valuable info ..am preparing for 70-270 ..i got my CCNA 2 months ago
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 09:00 AM

i have a 256mb of ram. :( :( :( :(
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#11 bilgisayar

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:21 PM

you have still long way to go, and you will see, in other exams cbt nuggets slightly better than testout. But again it is personel choice. I like more details. good luck ...


i studied my first exams through cbt nuggets, but after passing once after watching testout's cbts i never looked away and back to the cbt nuggets.

cbt nuggets is great and the most professional i might add, but they give you so much information, usually its too much information.
testout's cbts are short and to the point, watch and learn exactly what you need for the test.

so watching cbt nuggets just to get that little extra information that could also help you in real life in the future is a bit dull in my opinion, as in real life- experience is what matters.


if you are looking to start studying mcse (or anything else), i recommend studying only from testout!


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Posted 26 January 2007 - 08:21 AM

CCNA rocks and MCSE too, if I get my head around it.....thank you for sharing....and good luck in anything that you do
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 02:06 PM

Congrat...This posting has won "Post-Of-Month".
I will pin it for one month.
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#14 bilgisayar

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Posted 10 February 2007 - 10:32 PM

THANKS FOR THAT.
ALL I WANTED WAS TO HELP ALL THE BEGINNERS AND GAVE THEM AN IDEA.

Congrat...This posting has won "Post-Of-Month".
I will pin it for one month.


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#15 ashogan

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 12:25 PM

U have done and great job by dividing it in a proper and discipline way of tackling the MCSE paper. i should follow your example man. Thanks for sharing with us. Good luck man. :D
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Posted 14 February 2007 - 03:53 PM

Hi,

could you tell me what was the format of 70-270 exam. are 58 fixed no of questions or they change?

I planning to give exam 70-270 next month so i would glad if you give me answer of above question.


Thanks!
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#17 J Karthikeyan

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 07:19 PM

Hi,
I'm planning to take 70-290 & am using Actual Test Dumps.
Is it Ok?
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#18 bilgisayar

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 12:33 AM

They do change questions and the number, you might get 54 or 56 questions...

Hi,

could you tell me what was the format of 70-270 exam. are 58 fixed no of questions or they change?

I planning to give exam 70-270 next month so i would glad if you give me answer of above question.


Thanks!



As I said up there, they are all the same and try to get the latest, then you will be alright.

Hi,
I'm planning to take 70-290 & am using Actual Test Dumps.
Is it Ok?


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Posted 05 March 2007 - 08:07 AM

Hi everyone really good post enjoied to read it .I check some video training out for MCSE and decided start on Testout first because really I like test yourself after training and fill more positive what i can do it. Thanks for your expirience
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Posted 12 March 2007 - 12:10 PM

I passed 70-270 a couple of weeks ago (984) and am working on 70-290 using Microsoft books and Actual Tests.

Just found this forum. What is testout and where can I find it?

thanks,
John
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#21 bilgisayar

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 04:42 AM

Testout is just like cbt nuggets. And go to shares section and do a search.

I passed 70-270 a couple of weeks ago (984) and am working on 70-290 using Microsoft books and Actual Tests.

Just found this forum. What is testout and where can I find it?

thanks,
John


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Posted 16 March 2007 - 11:23 AM

Thanks for sharing this amazing info and your experiences...
such plan set in gaining your IT cert, specially for beginner..

wish you good luck in everything you do

Akram :)
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Posted 19 March 2007 - 09:29 AM

please tell me if u know about any dumps or mistakes in tk37 for 70-270
and which better tk or p4s
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Posted 21 March 2007 - 05:01 AM

Wonderful piece of advise for MCSE aspirants..

I require to complete all 7 exams ASAP.. any advice?!

I have cleared 70-270 4 days ago, working on 70-290 now and need some guidance..

I have the ATv445Q and also the ATv394Q...which one to trust on??

PLEASE HELP..SOS!
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#25 bilgisayar

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 08:15 AM

To be honest, just check what is the difference. They normally add a couple of questions more or reduce the number of the questions. Just take a look at the CONTENTS page in each other. And do some practice with VMWARE.

Wonderful piece of advise for MCSE aspirants..

I require to complete all 7 exams ASAP.. any advice?!

I have cleared 70-270 4 days ago, working on 70-290 now and need some guidance..

I have the ATv445Q and also the ATv394Q...which one to trust on??

PLEASE HELP..SOS!


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Posted 03 July 2007 - 03:21 PM

Thanks for sharing such neatly described pathways to availing MCSE with pros & cons. It would definitely help everyone in making a wise decision on their journey.

:D :D :rolleyes:
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Posted 03 September 2007 - 10:35 PM

Thanks for sharing the info but ... after a long experience i develop the same strategy as you told before ... i wish if i have joined this helping group before
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Posted 06 September 2007 - 03:41 AM

Hi all;

How long is normal to take the entire MCSE 2003+security?

Thanks

Reza
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Posted 24 December 2007 - 09:26 AM

First of all, I would like to thank you BIG time for ur share's (information). thumbs up :)

I started learning MCSE this month, and i actually did almost the same as you did. MCSE dir on the desktop, with subdirs includes each exam and information..
I also got CBT & Testout now, its pretty difficult to watch them both since its alot of hours, I also got MS Press books, which is toooo long but its nice to read it.
Sybex is great but i dont like the way they edit it. MS books are more orginazed and easy to read..

My plan is to first read the book, chapter by chapter, and every few chapter go over CBT and then Tesout videos.
I also got new 2GB of ram so I can run VMware fast. then I exercise the books exercises on the VM machine, and at the end of each exam I plan to start do Testking stuff. any additional recommendations you guys can share?

thanks to you all, and have a wonderful week :D
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Posted 15 January 2008 - 08:45 AM

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